Very well said Mr Embery! I have never quite understood why some members of certain professions, feel the need to sneer at people they don’t agree with, or who challenge them on something. Some academics, doctors and barristers seem to have this arrogant attitude far too often. I notice there are some political commentators too that have the same trait! Thankfully you don’t seem to be one of them, even though we are on opposing sides of the political spectrum. I admire you for sticking it out with the Labour Party, as I walked away in 2015, and cannot see me ever returning. I look forward to your next post.
Interesting piece, Paul. My son had read the SB’s first book, which opened the lid on how the justice system is anything but just. To see that author turn into yet another arrogant, progressive despot is, shall I say, disappointing. Thankfully there are still people like yourself willing to put forward and champion ordinary people.
It is, indeed, quite possible that SB is a coward. But I have an alternative explanation. It is quite likely that the fan base assembles in order to watch SB savage the rubes. The nastiness is the point, and SB wouldn't have a fan base (or at least that particular fan base) if he -- or she -- was polite and respectful. Being a jerk as a 24-hour-a-day proposition gives you a pretty awful life, whereas playing the role of a jerk when the mood strikes you -- well, I would argue _also_ gives you a pretty awful life, with admiring groupies, but many people do not see it that way. It's what they want. But it has to be a role. Walter Jon Williams wrote an excellent science fiction short story -- Pinocchio -- exploring this idea, and one sort of person who who would want it.
Several of the attendees at the infamous Wannsee conference were dintingushed and acamedic lawyers. There's nothing inherently morally superior about the legal profession. As witnessed, in Nazi Germany, Soviet Russia and Putin's Russia, as well as in Iran... lawyers are often more than obliging, to sell their souls for money and or career progression. They deserve no special consideration, or respect
My favourite war criminal was Doctor Doctor Otto Rasch - so called because he had doctorates in law and philosophy. Most people don't need a law degree to work out that it is illegal to kill innocent people. But the bad Doctor Doctor commanded SS Einsatzgruppe C which murdered 40,000 people near Kiev.
SB is either Keir Starmer or, one of his very close friends: ‘Keir Starmer and the KC Sunshine Band’, and at a KC’s median salary of £500k pa, you can see why they enjoy plenty of sunshine!
What is odd is that when you read the otherwise excellent book, SB is sympathetic to the tough circumstances of the criminal classes he defends. What I find puzzling is that a good criminal lawyer is able to see both sides of a case and should be a natural fence sitter on contentious issues. Yet history is full of activist lawyers egging on the revolution.
SB sounds more like a CPS intern that’s swallowed a few books with large words but when challenged, reverts to his/her cowardly bullying tactics from a place/background they’re embarrassed about..probably wasn’t fed on both breasts as a babe in arms either…
‘It’ might do well to realise that when all said and done, we all eat, drink, sh1t and p1ss the same, well most of us!
At the height of Corbynism in Barking Somalians had been moved in to the Gascoine estate in Barking, unaware of british culture the sight of 13 year old school girls in close to mini skirt school uniform saw many thinking the Girls were promiscuous and were women Islington orphanage before if both had Margaret hodge there ,and Hodge hadn't taken it on herself to see why the police hadn't delt with it
post the BNP in Barking ,the only person speaking out on it was Tommy Robinson so we had the bazar situation where Hodge was disliked by Corbyn, tommy Robinson was disliked by Hodge, so there were younger labour Members supporting both Corbyn and tommy Robinson
In 2018 the secret barrister said "tommy Robinson was rightly convicted of nearly casing a mistrial
Robinson pleading guilty without a solicitor present to he'd nearly caused a mistrial live streaming a court case before a jury were out but the jury were unaware of the stream as such, they couldn't be influenced, recently a lady protesting a just stop oil conviction calling for acquittals was being prosecuted for attempting to cause a mistrial
Without a solicitor present was misinformed and was cleared with a retiral with the 23n d time he faced a prosecution he faced a much lesser sentence
During his time for prison when he shouldn't have been in prison he nearly died with people spitting in his food he lost 3 and a half stone looked ill on his release, had he died there would have been riots in the streets not that i'd wanted those riots, i was shocked at the time the people talking of rioting weren't jus the football lads alliance they'd have been Corbynite labour members
The secret barristers book are very good ,but he was quite defensive of why he was right Robinson dived to plead. Guilty without a solicitor present for a fair trial ,only for the case to be thrown out for a retrial
Are there any right-wing leaders you wouldn’t toast, Mr. Beau? What about right-wing leaders such as Mussolini and Hitler? I’m genuinely interested (I subscribe to Mr. Embury)
Doesn’t the political spectrum go something like (from left to right) Communists/ Socialists/ Liberals/Centrists/Conservatives/Reform/?Far-right/ Fascists/Nazis? Obviously it’s an over-simplified model - but it’s unusual to believe that Nazis are on the left, despite socialist being in their name. And there are far-right groups who continue to idolise Adolf Hitler eg far-right groups like Golden Dawn (Greece), NSM (US), NRM (Sweden) (I just googled those!?).
Very well said Mr Embery! I have never quite understood why some members of certain professions, feel the need to sneer at people they don’t agree with, or who challenge them on something. Some academics, doctors and barristers seem to have this arrogant attitude far too often. I notice there are some political commentators too that have the same trait! Thankfully you don’t seem to be one of them, even though we are on opposing sides of the political spectrum. I admire you for sticking it out with the Labour Party, as I walked away in 2015, and cannot see me ever returning. I look forward to your next post.
Thanks, Chris.
Interesting piece, Paul. My son had read the SB’s first book, which opened the lid on how the justice system is anything but just. To see that author turn into yet another arrogant, progressive despot is, shall I say, disappointing. Thankfully there are still people like yourself willing to put forward and champion ordinary people.
An excellent essay and expose Paul.
It is, indeed, quite possible that SB is a coward. But I have an alternative explanation. It is quite likely that the fan base assembles in order to watch SB savage the rubes. The nastiness is the point, and SB wouldn't have a fan base (or at least that particular fan base) if he -- or she -- was polite and respectful. Being a jerk as a 24-hour-a-day proposition gives you a pretty awful life, whereas playing the role of a jerk when the mood strikes you -- well, I would argue _also_ gives you a pretty awful life, with admiring groupies, but many people do not see it that way. It's what they want. But it has to be a role. Walter Jon Williams wrote an excellent science fiction short story -- Pinocchio -- exploring this idea, and one sort of person who who would want it.
Several of the attendees at the infamous Wannsee conference were dintingushed and acamedic lawyers. There's nothing inherently morally superior about the legal profession. As witnessed, in Nazi Germany, Soviet Russia and Putin's Russia, as well as in Iran... lawyers are often more than obliging, to sell their souls for money and or career progression. They deserve no special consideration, or respect
My favourite war criminal was Doctor Doctor Otto Rasch - so called because he had doctorates in law and philosophy. Most people don't need a law degree to work out that it is illegal to kill innocent people. But the bad Doctor Doctor commanded SS Einsatzgruppe C which murdered 40,000 people near Kiev.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Rasch
SB is either Keir Starmer or, one of his very close friends: ‘Keir Starmer and the KC Sunshine Band’, and at a KC’s median salary of £500k pa, you can see why they enjoy plenty of sunshine!
What is odd is that when you read the otherwise excellent book, SB is sympathetic to the tough circumstances of the criminal classes he defends. What I find puzzling is that a good criminal lawyer is able to see both sides of a case and should be a natural fence sitter on contentious issues. Yet history is full of activist lawyers egging on the revolution.
Argue with a liberal, discover rudeness authoritarian.. “You are a moron, embarrassingly thick” etc…
SB sounds more like a CPS intern that’s swallowed a few books with large words but when challenged, reverts to his/her cowardly bullying tactics from a place/background they’re embarrassed about..probably wasn’t fed on both breasts as a babe in arms either…
‘It’ might do well to realise that when all said and done, we all eat, drink, sh1t and p1ss the same, well most of us!
At the height of Corbynism in Barking Somalians had been moved in to the Gascoine estate in Barking, unaware of british culture the sight of 13 year old school girls in close to mini skirt school uniform saw many thinking the Girls were promiscuous and were women Islington orphanage before if both had Margaret hodge there ,and Hodge hadn't taken it on herself to see why the police hadn't delt with it
post the BNP in Barking ,the only person speaking out on it was Tommy Robinson so we had the bazar situation where Hodge was disliked by Corbyn, tommy Robinson was disliked by Hodge, so there were younger labour Members supporting both Corbyn and tommy Robinson
In 2018 the secret barrister said "tommy Robinson was rightly convicted of nearly casing a mistrial
Robinson pleading guilty without a solicitor present to he'd nearly caused a mistrial live streaming a court case before a jury were out but the jury were unaware of the stream as such, they couldn't be influenced, recently a lady protesting a just stop oil conviction calling for acquittals was being prosecuted for attempting to cause a mistrial
Without a solicitor present was misinformed and was cleared with a retiral with the 23n d time he faced a prosecution he faced a much lesser sentence
During his time for prison when he shouldn't have been in prison he nearly died with people spitting in his food he lost 3 and a half stone looked ill on his release, had he died there would have been riots in the streets not that i'd wanted those riots, i was shocked at the time the people talking of rioting weren't jus the football lads alliance they'd have been Corbynite labour members
The secret barristers book are very good ,but he was quite defensive of why he was right Robinson dived to plead. Guilty without a solicitor present for a fair trial ,only for the case to be thrown out for a retrial
This guy sounds like he’s only pretending to be a barrister as any intelligent legal expert would not be inclined to use the language he does.
You’re not going to win any of them over by rational debate, you’re dealing with theology and faith.
Superb!
Are there any right-wing leaders you wouldn’t toast, Mr. Beau? What about right-wing leaders such as Mussolini and Hitler? I’m genuinely interested (I subscribe to Mr. Embury)
Thanks for reply.
Doesn’t the political spectrum go something like (from left to right) Communists/ Socialists/ Liberals/Centrists/Conservatives/Reform/?Far-right/ Fascists/Nazis? Obviously it’s an over-simplified model - but it’s unusual to believe that Nazis are on the left, despite socialist being in their name. And there are far-right groups who continue to idolise Adolf Hitler eg far-right groups like Golden Dawn (Greece), NSM (US), NRM (Sweden) (I just googled those!?).
Appreciate thoughtful reply - and again apologies for my delayed acknowledgment. I’ve been out of the Substack loop of late. Cheers