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David's avatar
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Daniel's comparison to South America is bizarre, as South America did not all of a sudden have millions of people of another religion and culture flood their country, unless he's going back to the conquistadors.

North Americans all fly their flag and they don't feel uncomfortable.

Let's not forget, Daniel's Tories (who call themselves CON-servatives but have conserved nothing of our culture or industry) have brought in all this demographic change, and Labour our rubbing their hands with all their new arrival voters!

Furthermore, I recall many Indians agreeing to fight in WW2 to

A) Stop Japan, as Japan wanted to take India for themselves and was building the Burma railway to get there!

B) To get Britain to agree to independence.

So whilst many Indians fought bravely, and some for the colours....Many many others fought for the points above and not for the love of a far-off Queen !

However, it's another great podcast by Paul :)

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Damian Grant's avatar

Having been born and brought up in Northern Ireland during the height of the so-called 'Troubles' in the 1980's, believe me, Britain will find it truly difficult to function cohesively should any degree of toxic sectarianism take root.

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Andrew Johnson's avatar

I can go better than Paul's account of where he grew up. I was born and until the age of 16 lived in South London, 2 minutes walk from the Thames in between Blackfriars and Waterloo bridges.

At 16 I joined the Royal Navy, based in Plymouth, Portsmouth and Yeovilton over a 30 year career. For the vast majority of that time I was adamant that you 'could take the boy out of London but not London out of the lad' and that's where I'd end up.

That changed for me hugely around my 30's when I saw how, as Paul said earlier, the place became like an enclave of the UN and the old 'community' feel of the place changed perceptively with the passing of the 'old guard'.

With my father passed on and my mother now in a care home, neither me nor my brother have reason to go into London. I simply have no desire to go to a place, that whilst it is my ancestral home of many generations, it is a place I do not recognise.

I wouldn't even work there now!

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Andrew Johnson's avatar

Very interesting conversation but I do find Daniel's comment on multiculturalism. His quote around the statement that 'Multiculturalism doesn't work' and his equating it to our own back history a 100 years. I feel his view is misplaced as he quotes British subjects, not Britain.

Yes the British Empire spanned the world and for it's length of term alone you could say that it functioned as a multicultural society. But Britain at that time was predominantly white and Christian, India not, Africa not, Australasia etc yes. Even during that period in our history, apart from missionaries I don't believe Britain ever enforced Christian ways upon the indigenous population, but we did expect to be able to practice it.

Most people would say that for Britain, multiculturalism doesn't work, the majority in this country have been made to feel like a minority, our acceptance of others and our liberalism I feel has become our undoing.

Our way of life has been slowly eroded over the last 15-18 years by political parties more interested in their own 'nest' than maintaining Britain as leading strength/force in the world

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