I find it fascinating that often those that climb out of the poorer classes often treat those from their backgrounds with disrespect. It’s I think a subconscious fear of falling back down. But mate they are not below you they are the ones that helped you climb out. Furthermore playing for England is not a badge of patriotic accomplishment. It’s those plebs he despises who put their lives on the line for the nation.
I will watch it later, but its interesting that your opponent was climate grifter Noel "Jim" Dale. Maybe he realises that his current grift is coming to an end and he is looking for another bandwagon to jump on.
I thought you argued your points well and the two academics' surveys reinforced your points and refuted those of Jim Dale, who really is not in touch with real hard working people.
He should stick to the weather which he's not very good at either. He gets a point for turning up !
You were great on this Paul. Of course I was never going to like what Jim had to say but the belief that all these protesters are either fascists or gullible fools is so frustrating.
When people get motivated by mass immigration I think it's usually not because Elon Musk promoted a video on twitter. Rather I think it's because they live in this country and see the visible changes and feel the apparent cultural alienation. It's so obvious even just over the last decade.
OMG Paul how did you stay so calm, I was shouting at my iPhone, Jim Dale did my head in. My son in law has never been political in his life, he has never voted, but now you can’t have a conversation with him without him going on about immigration and how angry he is. They just don’t get it do they, the Jim Dales of the world, it’s not about race, if he paid attention to all those people who attended the march they were people from all ethnic backgrounds there. Jim Dale you are out of touch with reality.
Thank you Paul for your calmly presented insights and truths about the ‘Freedom March’ last month. A key issue is about the sheer scale of immigration in recent years - more each year since 1997 than there was in whole period between Anglo Saxon period and end of 2nd World War. It’s also, as you said, about the British and particularly English culture (rather than race) and communities being threatened due to impossibility to integrate on this scale. And of course due largely to financial costs of this scale of foreign nationals, it affects availability and cost of housing and jobs for British citizens.
I will have to gird my loins to listen to this. That big nose, Jim Dale, makes my blood boil.
Well I did it 😬. Jim is wrong - when Gary Neville referred to “Middle aged angry white men”, he didn’t mean politicians. He was referring to those who put up the flags. And Gary posted on LinkedIn because he anticipated a soft landing; he was hoping that his message would be heard by like minded people and that he would be applauded for his luxury beliefs. Awks!
Jim dale basically said I don’t believe in Brexit the tories and reform, therefore anything or body who believes in these things are wrong by definition.. the logic and mindset of the blind liberal anywhere person. I think the anywhere somewhere split sums up this discussion
Defending free speech has never been more important.
But there is another reason why it’s helpful and it’s this. The more people get to hear the ideas and thought of people like Jim Dale the quicker the ideas of elite globalist liberals, and their grifters, will be consigned to the dustbin of history.
“When we wave the flag it’s a good thing, but when the proles so if it’s a bad thing”
“Those angry middle aged white men are too stupid to have any ideas of their own, they merely think what Farage tells them”
“Concerns about immigration can be overcome by the proles meeting some migrants”
So too dangerous to wave the flag, too stupid to have any thoughts or agency and too blind to notice, speak to and know the people we live among.
I find it fascinating that often those that climb out of the poorer classes often treat those from their backgrounds with disrespect. It’s I think a subconscious fear of falling back down. But mate they are not below you they are the ones that helped you climb out. Furthermore playing for England is not a badge of patriotic accomplishment. It’s those plebs he despises who put their lives on the line for the nation.
I will watch it later, but its interesting that your opponent was climate grifter Noel "Jim" Dale. Maybe he realises that his current grift is coming to an end and he is looking for another bandwagon to jump on.
Paul ,
I thought you argued your points well and the two academics' surveys reinforced your points and refuted those of Jim Dale, who really is not in touch with real hard working people.
He should stick to the weather which he's not very good at either. He gets a point for turning up !
You were great on this Paul. Of course I was never going to like what Jim had to say but the belief that all these protesters are either fascists or gullible fools is so frustrating.
When people get motivated by mass immigration I think it's usually not because Elon Musk promoted a video on twitter. Rather I think it's because they live in this country and see the visible changes and feel the apparent cultural alienation. It's so obvious even just over the last decade.
OMG Paul how did you stay so calm, I was shouting at my iPhone, Jim Dale did my head in. My son in law has never been political in his life, he has never voted, but now you can’t have a conversation with him without him going on about immigration and how angry he is. They just don’t get it do they, the Jim Dales of the world, it’s not about race, if he paid attention to all those people who attended the march they were people from all ethnic backgrounds there. Jim Dale you are out of touch with reality.
Thank you Paul for your calmly presented insights and truths about the ‘Freedom March’ last month. A key issue is about the sheer scale of immigration in recent years - more each year since 1997 than there was in whole period between Anglo Saxon period and end of 2nd World War. It’s also, as you said, about the British and particularly English culture (rather than race) and communities being threatened due to impossibility to integrate on this scale. And of course due largely to financial costs of this scale of foreign nationals, it affects availability and cost of housing and jobs for British citizens.
I will have to gird my loins to listen to this. That big nose, Jim Dale, makes my blood boil.
Well I did it 😬. Jim is wrong - when Gary Neville referred to “Middle aged angry white men”, he didn’t mean politicians. He was referring to those who put up the flags. And Gary posted on LinkedIn because he anticipated a soft landing; he was hoping that his message would be heard by like minded people and that he would be applauded for his luxury beliefs. Awks!
Jim Dale is a complete dick - talking total sh**e to make money for his own private company !
Jim dale basically said I don’t believe in Brexit the tories and reform, therefore anything or body who believes in these things are wrong by definition.. the logic and mindset of the blind liberal anywhere person. I think the anywhere somewhere split sums up this discussion
Defending free speech has never been more important.
But there is another reason why it’s helpful and it’s this. The more people get to hear the ideas and thought of people like Jim Dale the quicker the ideas of elite globalist liberals, and their grifters, will be consigned to the dustbin of history.
“When we wave the flag it’s a good thing, but when the proles so if it’s a bad thing”
“Those angry middle aged white men are too stupid to have any ideas of their own, they merely think what Farage tells them”
“Concerns about immigration can be overcome by the proles meeting some migrants”
So too dangerous to wave the flag, too stupid to have any thoughts or agency and too blind to notice, speak to and know the people we live among.
These people are offensively unserious